tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post115804663425658883..comments2008-10-29T23:12:39.821-06:00Manisha Pandithttps://profiles.google.com/109439220446024348061noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-31073484090205930372008-10-29T23:12:00.000-06:002008-10-29T23:12:00.000-06:00Hi Manisha,<BR/><BR/>I have just started blogging and like all fellow bloggers I am hooked like crazy. Stumbled upon your article here on Copyright Infringement. Its shocking though ironically not surprising.<BR/>Can you please help me too! <BR/>How to get my pictures copywrighted?? I have no clue.<BR/>I am a novice and a lesser mortal (no techie). Just an ardent food lover and a hard working one at that.<BR/>Also do visit my blog and advice me how to improve upon it. Its just a few weeks old. thanks!<BR/>navita<BR/>http://cooking-up-a-storm-zaayeka.blogspot.com/Navitahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09927324463494770397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-63507215798231502232007-05-31T18:35:00.000-06:002007-05-31T18:35:00.000-06:00<STRONG>Adhi Potoba</STRONG><EM>, I agree with you there! I love the name of your blog: Adhi Potoba, Mug Vithoba!<BR/><BR/>Welcome to IFR!</EM>Manishahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13397829480472038159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-9753651582054663622007-05-31T18:02:00.000-06:002007-05-31T18:02:00.000-06:00I personally feel that people from India should just be referred to as Indians. As we are in fact the original ones.Adhi Potobahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07410548589656234414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1165804104329792362006-12-10T19:28:00.000-07:002006-12-10T19:28:00.000-07:00<STRONG>Mike</STRONG><EM>, welcome! I'm sorry I missed your comment earlier. I find East Indian a very colonial term, denigrating Indians from free India. In case you are not aware, <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_East_India_Company" REL="nofollow">British East India Company</A> colonized India. And while Wikipedia may call it a "more precise" way of referring to Indians from India so that they are confused with native Americans/American Indians, I find it rather insulting actually. There is a group of people who call themselves East Indian and they chose to do so in order to show their allegiance to the British rule. It's something I feel strongly about and while it may be convenient, it is not polite. If you need to make a distinction, please use Indians from India, not East Indian.</EM><BR/><BR/><EM>Thanksgiving is a wonderful American tradition and we, too, take this time to give thanks for our families and what we have. I usually have a very Indian meal with beans, potatoes, and turkey/chicken/fish or lamb. Your menu sounds very delightful!</EM>Manishahttp://indianfoodrocks.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1163181475395520932006-11-10T10:57:00.000-07:002006-11-10T10:57:00.000-07:00When I copy or adapt a recipe, I always provide attribution of the source. In that vein....what if Chris Columbus landed in Bombay instead of Bermuda?! Here is a East Indian Thanksgiving dinner I did up last year. <BR/>http://www.subrosa.arbre.us/indiathanks.html<BR/> <BR/>Appetizer: Curried Nuts<BR/>Greens: Gujarat Green Beans<BR/>Starch: Horseradish Mashed Potatoes<BR/>Curried Yams with coconut milk<BR/>Turkey: Cumin and Coriander spice rub<BR/>Condiments: Cranberry Chutney<BR/>Cucumber Raita<BR/>Stuffing: With raisins, cinnamon, almonds, celery and of course, bread<BR/>Dessert: Chiffon Pumpkin Pie with crystallized ginger galore<BR/> <BR/>Reservations are a little tough to get at this special place. You can always download a recipe or some cool music or buy a nifty t-shirt, but that’s about it. http://www.subrosa.arbre.us/SubRosaReservations.html <BR/> <BR/>The Sepia Mutiny blog had a great time with the concept. http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/002515.htmlMike Sherwoodhttp://www.subrosa.arbre.us/SubRosaMusic.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1163131808027065592006-11-09T21:10:00.000-07:002006-11-09T21:10:00.000-07:00Yes Manisha I agree if it is exact copy blare the horn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1163100678556665462006-11-09T12:31:00.000-07:002006-11-09T12:31:00.000-07:00This is something very disturbing. I recently started my food blog and now am wondering whether I should go ahead posting all the recipes I have collected over the years. Of course, like a few of the bloggers mentioned Indian food tends to be similar sometimes. There can surely be variations to a recipe but surely not word-to-word copying. Definitely not the photos. I wish we could do something to stop this. I am sure we should circulate this info in all our blogs, so that whoever is doing it will atleast feel guilty and realize they are being noticed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1163050495976287922006-11-08T22:34:00.000-07:002006-11-08T22:34:00.000-07:00<STRONG>artizen flair</STRONG><EM> that's a beautiful quote! Most of these copy-cats are clueless. Others are scraper sites that attempt to make money from ads. Here's an interesting take on </EM><A HREF="http://performancing.com/node/4482" REL="nofollow">What to do when people steal your blog content</A>.<BR/><BR/><STRONG>AP</STRONG><EM>, we all agree that a recipe cannot be copyrighted. However, the way it is described can be. That's what this whole thing is about. The blogger works hard and creates unique content, which is lifted without so much as an acknowledgement and passed off as original content on another site. Food blogging is a very productive channel for inter-cultural bonding. So we are sharing openly. However, when I make one of your recipes, I don't pass it off as mine nor do I copy it word for word from your site. What I would do is link to your site for the original recipe and write my own take on it, in my own words on my blog.</EM>Manishahttp://indianfoodrocks.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1163048306294283342006-11-08T21:58:00.000-07:002006-11-08T21:58:00.000-07:00Hummn.....I read Shilpa' blog then read your blog...I think one can copyright pictures. Recipes I don't think can be copyrighted. It makes one sad when someone copies but you loose out on the joy of blogging by making a huge issue of it. The beauty of blogging is sharing. Traditional recipes cannot be claimed as anyone person's. Were we even born when they were created.Anna_Parabrahmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01461685370304758571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1160543626077887582006-10-10T23:13:00.000-06:002006-10-10T23:13:00.000-06:00I can understand the frustration with others using YOUR work, sometimes compliments come with hidden agendas. It brings to mind a beautiful Oscar Wilde quote: "Always forgive your enemies, nothing annoys them so much".nahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03634873618655150613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1160247382615192042006-10-07T12:56:00.000-06:002006-10-07T12:56:00.000-06:00<STRONG>Lisa</STRONG><EM>, welcome! You probably meant to post your comment on my post on <A HREF="http://indianfoodrocks.blogspot.com/2006/09/five-must-eats-before-you-die.html" REL="nofollow">5 Must Eats</A>. I don't have the capability to move comments to another post else I would have done so.</EM><BR/><BR/><EM>Charlie Trotter's is a foodie's dream come true. And they do have a vegetarian menu. I was torn between trying that and the regular version. But even in the regular version, the way veggies and spices are used to enhance and complement the meat was fantastic. The next best restaurant for me - with exotic dining options - has been <A HREF="http://http://indianfoodrocks.blogspot.com/2006/04/cape-ann-delights.html" REL="nofollow">Cala's</A> in Cape Ann, MA. The meal was not a series of entrées like at Charlie Trotter's but the food was divine!</EM><BR/><BR/><EM>And, I totally agree with you about pani puri, samosas, PB (which for us means Pav bhaji, not peanut butter!) and everything else you've mentioned. But I had to limit myself to 5 must-eats so... </EM><BR/><BR/><EM>You sound very much like my Italian-American friend! Except that her husband is not Indian. They use Indian spices liberally and she's cooked us delicious Indian meals, including dessert! Do keep in touch as I would love to know what you are cooking up in your kitchen!</EM>Manishahttp://indianfoodrocks.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1160023685899992182006-10-04T22:48:00.000-06:002006-10-04T22:48:00.000-06:00Manisha...<BR/><BR/>I loved your post - I totally agree about the mangoes, roti, amla, and Idliis!! Those are all my favorite things in the world too!!!!<BR/>I haven't been the restaurant you mentioned - and I am vegetarian so I am not sure if they'd have anything for me.....but anyways, I totally agree - you got to try those things in life!!<BR/><BR/>Some other must haves I would say are Samosas, Dosas, Masala Chai, Awesome Coconut Chutney, Rasam, Pani Puri and Pav Bhaji - there is nothing I love more than really spicy Pani Puri or Samosas with a Thumbs Up - <BR/><BR/>By the way I am an Italian-American and if I have this affection for Indian cuisine then anyone can!! I can even cook it all myself - and my Indian husband thinks its awesome! :)<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the enjoyable post :)<BR/><BR/>LisaLisa Subramanyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1159915184216732282006-10-03T16:39:00.000-06:002006-10-03T16:39:00.000-06:00<STRONG>Nabeela</STRONG><EM>, happy to have been of help!</EM><BR/><BR/><STRONG>Inji</STRONG><EM> and </EM><STRONG>Anon</STRONG>, <EM>thank you for a great conversation! It's a treat to have intelligent and respectful discourse on my blog!</EM><BR/><BR/><STRONG>Sangeeta</STRONG><EM>, I'd recommend attempting to educate the person on copyrights. Sometimes people are just not aware that it's not right. If that fails, there are other ways: report it to the web host if the site is hosted privately (www.whois.sc/domainname eg www.whois.sc/cnn.com ) will tell you who the web host is. If it is a blog hosted on Blogger, Yahoo!, Wordpress or any other free service provider, look for their TOS and/or abuse forms and report it. Make a post on your blog about the stolen material. Hope this helps! And, welcome to IFR!</EM>Manishahttp://indianfoodrocks.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1159626824997659262006-09-30T08:33:00.000-06:002006-09-30T08:33:00.000-06:00Hi Manisha,<BR/><BR/>It is a sad state of affairs when some folks have no qualms about copying material and passing it as their own. <BR/><BR/>What we can do if we know someone who has done such a thing is to pass the word around about that blog and black list it. The person concerned will be shamed into not copying so blatantly.<BR/><BR/>SangeetaSangeetahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05370148227733797728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1158980428930980202006-09-22T21:00:00.000-06:002006-09-22T21:00:00.000-06:00Inji Pennu,<BR/><BR/>I have nothing against people who delete nasty comments but if someone gives constructive criticism I see no harm.And I totally agree with what Manisha said.<BR/>"It is a personal space they chose to make public. That's where the difference lies".<BR/>If u make your blog public, u should be open to criticism too not the good comments alone. U should be open to both. <BR/>And also what difference does it make whether u post a comment with an id or without one,constructive criticism is still going to be constructive criticism. People are just trying to help and not post for the heck of it.I post comments only to help not because I enjoy criticising others.All u guys do a wonderful job with your blogs,investing a lot of thought,time and effort.<BR/>All said and done I still stand by my earlier comment.That's my opinion.Everyone is entitled to their own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1158941700057752852006-09-22T10:15:00.000-06:002006-09-22T10:15:00.000-06:00Manisha<BR/>I agree with you completely. The best thing about blogging is you get instant feed back. People ask questions, disagree with some of the recipes etc. Thats what makes a blog interesting than a static website. Also, others who read it get an idea with lot of tips. Thats the whole fun!<BR/><BR/>But when people cross the limits, like put nasty personal comments, I just delete it. I dont care to answer them, esp when they come as anonymous. I do think if someone with a valid blogger id criticise or even put nasty comments, I would answer them. But not when they are faceless -- then I am wasting my time. That I think too is an advanatage of blogging.<BR/><BR/>It really irked me when anonymous said, 'they shouldnt blog!' :-)<BR/>I definitely think it is the other way. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1158908476931774072006-09-22T01:01:00.000-06:002006-09-22T01:01:00.000-06:00Thanks Manisha for the copyscape link...it really helped!Nabeelahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13570439531106029653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1158885965221541532006-09-21T18:46:00.000-06:002006-09-21T18:46:00.000-06:00<STRONG>Inji</STRONG><EM>, crossed the line? I don't think so. :-D I love to read everyone's opinions. It leads to intelligent discourse. I have reached a stage where I can certainly do with that! I read food blogs mainly through my RSS-reader and click through to the site only if I have a question. Now I am cutting down on that, too, because many times the blogger just doesn't know or there is no answer.</EM><BR/><BR/><EM>I both agree and disagree with you. Yes, it is the blogger's personal space. But it is a personal space they chose to make public. That's where the difference lies. If the comments are downright nasty and personal - I have had a few on my blog and they're still there - it might make sense to reply in an assertive manner or simply delete them if it's not something the blogger wants to take on. Constructive criticism? I think that goes a long way in helping to improve the quality of the blog. Feedback that the recipe didn't work? Why not? It may help the blogger tune the recipe for different conditions. Sometimes other readers might be able to offer suggestions. Difference of opinion? Again, why not? It leads to exchange of ideas and better community building. A lot does depend on the tone of the comment or the tone as perceived by the blogger. In the ultimate analysis, the blogger has complete control over the delete button. :-D As you said, the reader can stop visiting that blog. And what I recommend is that if you have something to say that will not be accepted on another blog, post it on your own. And, be prepared to deal with the resulting comments in the same way you would have liked your comment to have been dealt with on the other blog. Like <A HREF="http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2006/04/the_120_day_won.html" REL="nofollow">Guy Kawasaki</A> says, "Be Bold." ;-)</EM><BR/><BR/><EM>What happened with me was slightly different. I am not sure parallels can be drawn simply because this was from a person who was stealing other people's pictures and who misrepresented a recipe she had copied word for word from another site as her own.</EM><BR/><BR/><STRONG>Nabeela</STRONG><EM>, <A HREF="http://www.copyscape.com" REL="nofollow">Copyscape</A> is your friend and you can also look for exact phrases from your recipe by enclosing them in quotes and then searching in Google. I came upon it when I was looking for more information on marag. Check out #14 on <A HREF="http://answers.yahoo.com/info/community_guidelines.php" REL="nofollow">Yahoo! Community Guidelines</A>, and quote that to report abuse by following the link on #27 on <A HREF="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/" REL="nofollow">Yahoo! Terms of Service</A>. I don't know that you will get anywhere but it's worth a try.</EM>Manishahttp://indianfoodrocks.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1158883787512052552006-09-21T18:09:00.000-06:002006-09-21T18:09:00.000-06:00OMG Manisha, thanks for pointing that out to me...I never gave my marag recipe in yahoo answers...Gosh! I don't know how to solve this issue....how did you even know about it? <BR/>How do I search if somebody is copying from me online ? By putting in a phrase I wrote on my blog into google and see what it comes up with?Nabeelahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13570439531106029653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1158879553286558432006-09-21T16:59:00.000-06:002006-09-21T16:59:00.000-06:00To the anonymous,<BR/>A blog is one person's personal space like their home. I do think the home owners have all their right to invite or delete the visitor comments. Esp when you see nasty comments.You are not getting a paid service by reading a person's blog. Instead you are getting a 'free' service where the bogger spends some time. So you know, what a person do with the comments shouldnt bother anyone. If you dont like it, you shouldn't read the blog,It is other way -- not like as you said, "they shouldnt blog!" :-)<BR/><BR/>Sorry Manisha. Really Sorry. Please do delete this If I have crossed the line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1158879217814682962006-09-21T16:53:00.000-06:002006-09-21T16:53:00.000-06:00Which blog is this Manisha? You could leave a comment on my blog and then delete the comment immediately. I would get the comment in an email,but when you delete the comment,none would be able to see.<BR/><BR/>I think one should first blog for oneself, not for good comments or for others. Then none will do this. Then if we get comments and get buddies, it is an added plus,thats all..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1158879018616302352006-09-21T16:50:00.000-06:002006-09-21T16:50:00.000-06:00What happened? It is so sad when people do this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1158873737761167422006-09-21T15:22:00.000-06:002006-09-21T15:22:00.000-06:00<STRONG>Kavita</STRONG><EM>, welcome! The case in point was stolen images and a recipe copied word for word from a commercial web site. It was not my recipe that was stolen. The objective of this post is to raise awareness about copyrights and ownership of content and materials published on the web. It's not a free for the taking.</EM>Manishahttp://indianfoodrocks.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1158870560129737592006-09-21T14:29:00.000-06:002006-09-21T14:29:00.000-06:00Manisha,<BR/><BR/>I found your blog (linked from some other blog :D). Anyways, I am shocked that people are stealing your lovely recipes! I am a new blogger and would surely hate it if someone stole my recipes! Hope it doesn't happen again.<BR/><BR/>Kavitaprincessyogihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02586290950822013053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5156654.post-1158869888443891702006-09-21T14:18:00.000-06:002006-09-21T14:18:00.000-06:00<STRONG>KA</STRONG><EM>, it's happened to me at work. And I was told in so many words: "Sorry to steal your thunder!" I couldn't believe it. I thought I had left that behind in grade school. I dealt with it and won in more ways than one. I hope you haven't had to go through something like that!</EM><BR/><BR/><STRONG>Meena</STRONG><EM>, thank you for tagging me. You are the third person to tag me. Faith of <A HREF="http://mekuno.net" REL="nofollow">Mekuno cooking</A> tagged me 3 weeks ago, Shilpa of <A HREF="http://www.aayisrecipes.com" REL="nofollow">Aayi's Recipes</A> tagged me earlier this week and now you! I will get to it, I promise!</EM><BR/><BR/><STRONG>Shaheen</STRONG><EM>, I don't know that the anti-theft or report-your-theft forum is getting anywhere. I, unfortunately, have not had the time to follow up on it. I've been swamped at work and then the <A HREF="http://flower-fest.blogspot.com/2006/09/flower-fest-round-up-for.html" REL="nofollow">Round-Up for Flower Fest - A</A> plus a bad back. :-( </EM><BR/><BR/><STRONG>Anon</STRONG><EM>, everyone has their own reasons for writing a blog. A lot of people do not know how to handle comments, especially negative ones or ones filled with sarcasm. When you write a blog or a web site, you are opening yourself up to a lot of criticism from people you will never know or meet. People use nicknames when they post comments or post anonymously so that the comment can never be traced back to them. I chose not to be anonymous because I think it makes a difference. Unfortunately, this blogger decided to play games. Then again it was her blog, her choice. A lot of people might look at it another way and say 'I had it coming.' :-D</EM>Manishahttp://indianfoodrocks.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com